Originally Published at The Solute
Overview: I’m a fan of Tim Burton but I can’t
unequivocally say I’m a fan of the Gothic art that inspires Burton
himself. In other words, if Tim Burton and I were to walk through an art
gallery, I’m sure we’d be drawn to different paintings, but I would
still want to see the world through Tim Burton’s eyes. Burton’s visual
style can best be described as if a city’s architecture were modelled on
the interior of a Halloween haunted house with a dash of German
Expressionism thrown in.
Burton is one of the most visually distinctive directors of moviedom
today. He is apologetically drawn to the same thematic and stylistic
territory through roughly thirty years and counting, and his fans have
mostly been onboard. Thematically, Burton loves stories of outsiders and
estrangement. Negligent or completely absent parents are a common
theme. In terms of source material, he’s chosen a comic series about a
superhero filling in the hole of his dead parents (Batman), an orphanage for children (Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children), a girl named Alice who must have some pretty free range parents if they leave her alone to her own devices so much (Alice in Wonderland),
and Willy Wonka whose emotionally distant dad (Christopher Lee in one
of his best roles) is posited as the source for his loopiness. On top of
that, Big Fish is about a man who can’t separate the fact and
fiction of his father which is sufficient meta-commentary on the
emotional distance between a kid and his father.
The two least Burtonesque films outside of the ones done as studio favors (Planet of the Apes, Mars Attacks) were rich biographical examinations of artists that inspired the director: Ed Wood and Bela Lugosi in Ed Wood and Margaret Keane in Big Eyes. Unlike his Planet of the Apes
remake, which no one really thinks of as a necessary installment in Tim
Burton’s filmography, these two films epitomize Burton’s vision but in a
more personal way.
What makes Burton worth watching isn’t just his visual prowess or his
singular vision, but he deserves credit for handling human
relationships as well. Whether it’s relationships between people and
their found families, romance, mentor-protége relationships or
father-son, there’s a certain sugary sweetness that the fantastical
nature of his stories can give him leeway to pull off.
A Brief Biography: Tim Burton was born to a
murderous barber and a the Queen of Hearts—okay, seriously, Tim Burton
was born in Burbank to a father who was a minor league player before
settling to work in the parks and recreation department (probably not as
fun as the 2009 NBC show) and a mother who owned a cat-themed gift shop
(that sounds pretty interesting). Just like many of his characters, he
found his suburban life bland, felt disconnected from his father, and
was very much a withdrawn loner in school. He did play water polo at
Burbank High School, however (anyone know where that places you on the
social food chain in Southern California high schools?). Another
commonality that he has with the protagonist from Charlie and the
Chocolate Factory was that from age ten to his high school graduation
the left his parents to live with his grandmother.
Burton watched a lot of old-school horror films, B-movies, German
expressionist films, and was especially intrigued by Vincent Price. He
first gained notice for his artistic talent through winning a local
contest by designing an anti-litter poster. After high school, he was
accepted on scholarship to the California Institute of the Arts which
was dubbed by the LA Times as the “Harvard Business School of
animation.” Although the CIA has turned out directors like Sofia Coppola
and James Mangold, the vast majority of its alumni are animators and a
lot of them (at least at the time Burton graduated) went straight to
work for Disney. Despite not having a style that meshed with Disney’s
family-friendly vision, Burton took advantage of the job placement and
worked at Disney. As one would expect, Burton clashed with colleagues
but contributed to a couple of Disney features in the 80s and still
impressed them enough with his talent that he got the green light to
make “Vincent” with a $60,000 budget. “Vincent” is about a young kid who
was obsessed with Vincent Price which, again, is pretty
autobiographical. He then made his first live-action short,
“Frankenweenie,” which was turned into a 2012 film. Then Paul Ruebens
came along and eventually Beetlejuice and Batman and that gave him box office clout.
Throughout his filmography, Burton would be careful to keep an eye on
pre-existing intellectual properties so he could justify big budgets
because those ornate gothic visions don’t come cheap. Today, Tim Burton
lives in Ojai and although he hasn’t spoken with his father since high
school (although it’s possible that his father died since I read this),
he has a younger brother, Danny, who’s a working artist and supposedly
is more avant-garde than Tim. He’s also associated romantically with
Helena Bonham Carter who he’s not technically married to (as far as my
research shows). He is often recognized in public with his disheveled
hair and dark sunglasses.
A couple more interesting bits of trivia: Burton revealed on the Batman
DVD commentary that he was “banned” from comic con for his film
deviating from the canon. Also, Joel Schumacher who many believe to have
ruined what Tim Burton built with Batman is good friends with Burton. For two people with such different styles, who'd have thunk?
How many have I seen: Thanks to a Tim Burton
discussion I attended at DC’s Cinema Lounge in which I was forced to up
my game, I’m up to 8. It’s also possible that I saw Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure as a kid and don’t remember it. The others are Batman, Edward Scissorhands, Batman Returns, Ed Wood, Corpse Bride, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Alice in Wonderland, and Big Eyes.
My Favorite: There are three films on this list I
think are absolutely brilliant, but I’ll stick with the one that’s his
most highly praised film (though I’m sure there will always be debate): Ed Wood.
The concept portraying history’s worst film maker as a success story
because the man never knew who bad he was – is gold which gives the film
a solid headstart. The execution is even better: There’s the scene in
which he gets advice from Orson Welles and the decision to stop the film
as they’re walking into the premiere (a la Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid).
As previously stated, this is a film with less visual showmanship, but
the film still has its touches. One thing that’s a little disappointing
on a rewatch I had a few years ago: Johnny Depp doesn’t really show as
much range here as he usually does and his overeager naivette is a
little overly reminiscent of the way he chose to portray Willy Wonka.
Underrated: I’m going to break my rule and go with a
tie. I’m sorry! Because it was released on Christmas day of 2014 by the
Weinstein Company, Big Eyes got a fair amount of Oscar hype
but its bad box office cooled the movie’s awards season hopes
significantly although it got some love at the Golden Globes. Too bad
because this is a very unique experience. It’s a can-do story of
underdog artists that pulls the wool over our eyes midway through as it
morphs into a full-on domestic horror film. Christophe Waltz goes from
sly opportunist to the husband from Hell and the culminating courtroom
finale is a great female empowerment moment.
Batman Returns is a film I felt somewhat frightened of as a
child, but as I’ve grown older and have seen more Burton films, I’ve
come to see it as the most quintessentially Burtonesque work and a
triumph of the man to be able to meld his style beautifully with a
pre-existing story. The 1989 Batman suffers from the same problem that The Dark Knight did (at least in my eyes): The Joker is a villain that lends itself to actor bravado. Batman Returns,
in contrast, (and the rest of Nolan’s trilogy) has a much more balanced
story that allows the director to be more of the star. The film is
fantastical, absurdist and strangely grounded in two origin stories that
seem like more than just excuses to get the film from the first to
second acts. Danny DeVito and Michelle Pfeiffer really own their parts
but the exposition for Cat Woman and the slow creep of The Penguin into
the scene are both delicious. (The Penguin is first revealed after the
prologue, as a deformed hand jutting out of a sewer grate as a newspaper
alludes to him in its headline. Later you see his lair and minions
before seeing the Penguin in the flesh.) The design of Wayne manor and
the playful villainy of the Red Triangle Gang are also highlights. The
film ends on a tragic note but with its artistry, it’s a tragedy of epic
proportions.
Overrated: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
I’ve always found the source material weird and kind of a misguided
allegory, and the Gene Wilder version creeped me out as a child, so I
might not have been the ideal audience for this. Burton handles the
adaptation kind of well and properly highlights the holes the novel
doesn’t really explore: Willy Wonka is kind of a cruel and weird person
that children might not want to idolize so much just because he has
candy. However, the visual scheme didn’t really do it for me. The bright
colors looked kindergartenish, the army of identical little people was
more aggressive-looking than charming, and I couldn’t tell if the film
was trying to make commentary on Michael Jackson (who was kind of hated
by the public at the time) and felt the film should have gone one way or
another with it.
Blind spots: The three most acclaimed films I haven’t seen are Big Fish, Sweeney Todd, and Beetlejuice.
My idea for this entire feature (the blind spots part) came about
because a movie theater usher gave me one of those “You haven’t seen
____?! How can you call yourself a movie person without seeing ___” when
I told him I didn’t see Beetlejuice. I think I’ll forever proudly define myself as the guy who has never seen Beetlejuice just to piss off my usher friend now. Sweeney Todd –
the story of a murderous barber – sounds like the exact opposite of
what I’m looking for in a musical. Other than that: I just saw the
trailer for Mars Attacks! and that looks really interesting. The film apparently flew under the radar because Independence Day eclipsed it at the box office and gobbled up the “weird alien movie” press that year. Big Fish,
I hear is a great great film, and I’m happy agreeing with that
assessment without having watched it. I just have a hunch based on what
I’ve read. I’d watch it too, but if I have to pick one, I would go with Mars Attacks!
Filmography as Director (20 films)
Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children (2016)
Big Eyes (2014)
Dark Shadows (2012)
Frankenweenie (2012)
Alice in Wonderland (2010)
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)
Tim Burton’s The Corpse Bride (2005) (Co-Director)
Big Fish (2003)
Planet of the Apes (2001)
Sleepy Hollow (1999)
Mars Attacks! (1996)
Ed Wood (1994)
Batman Returns (1992)
Edward Scissorhands (1990)
Batman (1989)
Beetlejuice (1988)
Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure (1985)
“Frankenweenie” (1984)
“Vincent” (1982)
This blog is sporadically maintained by freelance journalist Orrin Konheim (he regularly writes at http://www.patreon.com/okjournalist) who has been professionally published in over three dozen publications. Orrin was a kid who watched too much TV growing up but didn't discover the joy of film writing until 2003 when he posted his first IMDB user review and got hooked. Orrin runs adult education zoom courses on how to be published, as well as a film of the month club
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Tuesday, March 21, 2017
Big Eyes (2014) Review
"Big Eyes" tells the real-life story of painter Margaret Keane and how she was trapped by a marriage in the worst way: Stripped of her name and artistic identity through her husband's lies. Tim Burton previously made one of the best films about the artistic struggle with "Ed Wood" and he touches upon similar themes here. Like how "Ed Wood" flips the traditional artistic biopic formula on its head, "Big Eyes" is cleverly inverted here. Instead of portraying the joy of art, the film takes on the trappings of being a great artist: That if art is intertwined with the aspects of your identity, you can lose it at any moment.
The film is a departure from Tim Burton's usual Gothic style but it has shadings of the characters he's drawn to in both Walter and Amy. What originally unites them together is perhaps where many Tim Burton characters might finish their filmic journey: Outsiders to the mainstream who have found a partner-in-crime that could move them closer to the center of societal acceptance and, ultimately, societal success.
But as they say, "Happily ever after fails" (In this case, I'm specifically thinking of Don Henley
who followed that line with "We've been poisoned by these fairy tales") and what's left is the trappings of a psychological thriller. This ends up being a more adult conflict than his way, this is a much more adult work than say "Corpse Bride" or "Alice in Wonderland."
The film is egregiously mislabelled as a comedy by organizations such as the Golden Globes (and Netflix). The closest it comes to comedic is Walter Keane's sense of self-delusion. That characterization, however, is an important plot point, and ignoring that is a sign that perhaps Burton's reputation prevents the film from being taken as seriously as it should.
The film is also further evidence that Christophe Waltz is one of the most fascinating actors of today. He is mostly consigned to villains but can make something out of practically everything he's handed. It's hard to fathom that this remarkable actor was toiling in the German film industry for years before being discovered. He's well-known for his roles in Quentin Tarantino films but I can't emphasize how much fans of this actor should check this film out: By requiring him to turn from a sympathetic artist in the first act to a devious villain, few films have tested his range as such.
Additionally, check out the real life story.
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Saturday, December 24, 2016
Notes on the Empire Magazine Top 300 Poll
In 2014, Empire Magazine compiled a reader poll of the 301 greatest films of all time (you can play it in quiz form here, the list is unavailable but the final composited total is here).
Here are some notes on the list:
- The Empire subscriber base is likely dominated by film aficionados who came of age in the 1990s. This can be seen in the high rankings of the films of Quentin Tarantino’s and Frank Darabont’s films, the ranking of Scorsese’s 1990 film “Goodfellas” over his earlier masterpieces, the high rankings of “Fight Cub,” “The Matrix” and the fact that Kevin Smith is even mentioned at all, shows that this is likely a group of voters that primarily came of age during the 1990s. Tarantino’s debut “Reservoir Dogs” (which didn’t really bring anything to the table that “Pulp Fiction” would do two years later) clocks in at #75. Additionally, David Fincher’s hits “Se7en” and “Fight Club” and the David Fincheresque “Usual Suspects” all place extremely high.
- It’s also worth noting that after the big triumvate of “Raging Bull” “Taxi Driver” and “Goodfellas”, the only other pre-2000 Scorsese work listed here is “Casino” which isn’t particularly memorable unless you were forming your filmic vocabulary in that decade. A more preferable choice for a film that defined Scorsese pre-2000 is “Mean Streets.”
- This is clearly a male voting body that grew up in the 1990’s. Tarantino and Fincher’s 90’s work are both hyper-masculine celebrations of violence whereas heady science fiction stuff like “Contact” gets ignored in favor of something like “The Matrix” which revels in bullets and special effects. Romantic comedies and musicals are both given much less weight than they would ordinarily. Among the older Westerns, the 1969 film “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid” makes the cuts which is a celebration of masculine strength. Another 1969 film which won the best picture that year and generally does about as well on these kinds of lists, “Midnight Cowboy” gets omitted entirely and that’s a film that celebrates masculine weakness. Well-regarded films such as “Ghost” or “In the Name of the Father” from the time period where many of the films are skewed towards stand no chance of making it. "English Patient" is another outliar. I might say the same about the 2012 version of "Les Mis" but as Key and Peele reminded us, it's got Wolverine in it.
- Then again, Tim Burton who was one of the most successful film directors of the decade in terms of box office pull, innovation, and cultural clout seems to have retreated from memory. Edward Scissorhands clocks in at 170 while his masterpiece “Ed Wood” isn’t even mentioned at all. Batman is 288 and that’s more likely due to the presence of superhero tastes than Burton’s touch. Perhaps, his gothic flights of imagination are easier to get invested in as kids and they detached from him as an adult despite the fact that “Big Fish” (which ranks on IMDB’s Top 250) and “Ed Wood” are both considered great films that aren’t particularly relevant to a children’s audience.
- One would think that a year later in the post-truth era, movies that either champion political truth like “The Candidate,” “All the President’s Men” or “Spotlight” or that satirize news absurdity like Elia Kazan’s “A Face in the Crowd” or “Network” might rise a bit in the rankings. “All the President’s Men” and “Network” are both on AFI’s Top 100. “All the President’s Men” doesn’t even make the list!
- It’s also clear that this voting body has been selectively exposed to the past. “Scarface” makes the list because the poster is on everyone’s dorm room. “It’s a Wonderful Life” and “Wizard of Oz” our TV staples around Christmastime whereas Frank Capra’s other masterpieces don’t make the cut. Similarly, “Cool Hand Luke” has become a very quotable film and as such beat out 1967 films such as “Bonnie and Clyde” and “In the Heat of the Night” that had previously ranked higher on many lists. And don’t forget the cannon of John Hughes whose films are popular at summer parties and clubs.
- It seems the artsier the group of film experts, the more dismissive they are of Spielberg. However, if you’re pragmatic enough to realize that Spielberg’s films are as essential as Sergio Leone, David Lynch, Martin Scorsese, and Quentin Tarantino. Whereas “Schindler’s List” ordinarily tops these types of lists, these voters selected “Jaws” and “Raiders of the Lost Ark” 8th and 9th. “Schindler’s List” represents Spielberg’s high-brow ambitions, whereas “Jaws” and “Raiders” represent Spielberg sticking to his forte.
- For a voting body that rewards the hyper-violent and special-effects laden, it is refreshing to see a couple of Terrence Malick’s films make the list in “Tree of Life” and “New World.” His films stand entirely against any cinematic trends to make narratives faster and tighter.
- Old-school blockbusters like "Superman" "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn" and particuarly "Die Hard" finally get their due as smartly made blockbusters unashamed to dig into their deep mythologies. I know this is hard to believe but some 15 years ago, there was virtually nothing indicating "Die Hard" was a classic among any serious segment of the population. This also could explain Tim Burton's "Batman" making the list.
Wednesday, April 29, 2015
Discussing TV vs. Movies with Adam Spector Part III
This is Part III of a series where my friend Adam Spector and I debate the merits of movies verses television. Adam keeps a column on film here and
leads a film discussion group in DC every month and has a highly impressive knowledge of films. Our discussion began here with my confession that I watch way more TV than films these days because TV has so many built-in advantages. In Part II, we discussed how TV had threatened films before but movies responded with innovation and considered the possibility that movies might not have as much in their bag of tricks.
Orrin -- Well, we've certainly had strong powers of persuasion over one another. Your first response made me reconsider strongly whether it was foolish to proclaim films in decline, and now you've changed your tune (I suppose Mark Harris' article also had something to do with it).
Orrin -- Well, we've certainly had strong powers of persuasion over one another. Your first response made me reconsider strongly whether it was foolish to proclaim films in decline, and now you've changed your tune (I suppose Mark Harris' article also had something to do with it).
First off, I wouldn't entirely say that I'm averse to
franchise films. I enjoyed Star Trek into Darkness and X-Men Days of Future
Past as well as Iron Man 2 and, hey, I even spent $12.50 watching Horrible
Bosses II last week. What all those films have in common is that I saw Part I.
It wouldn't make sense to watch Captain America II or Kick Ass II or Wrath of
the Titans when I didn't see Part I of those films and there are only so many
Part Is I'm willing to see in a given year. In other words, the sequels and
movies meant to launch sequels are overloading me at this point. Similarly,
something like Guardians of the Galaxy which seems intended solely to have sequels
is also a turn-off. My feeling of alienation when I check out what's playing at
the movie theater and see mostly Part IIs and Part IIIs to films I
didn't see in the first place.
I theorize that as long as there's a best picture race
(and I wonder if expanding it from 5 to up to 10 pictures was Hollywood's
saving grace) studios will care enough to try and get their products into those
5-10 slots. This year there are not just going to be 9-10 pictures but it seems
like there's another 7 or 8 knocking on the door of a best picture nomination:
Foxcatcher, Boyhood, Birdman, Gone Girl, Whiplash, Grand Budapest Hotel, Theory
of Everything, Imitation Game, Unbroken, and Selma might be the ten if it gets
filled out to maximum capacity with American Sniper, Wild, Mr Turner, A Most
Violent Year, Inherent Vice, and Nightcrawler all having the potential to play
spoiler. All of those films were clearly made with the intent of getting some
awards attention and the result allowed art verse commerce to win. That's not
even counting ambitious films that came out to mixed reviews like Homesman or Interstellar and films that could result in acting nominations
like Still Alice, St Vincent, Snowpiercer, The Judge or Big Eyes.
In all, I just listed 25 films all somehow tied to the
Oscar race in some way or another and I'm likely forgetting a few. I think the
larger question is how these people are getting films made. It might be that
the end of Hollywood as we know it hasn't arrived just yet, but we could be
getting to the cusp. I could see someone like Tim Burton staying in the film
game as some of his films like "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"
and "Alice in Wonderland" have shown he can make money. Obviously
Christopher Nolan isn't going anywhere. But what about Alejandro Inarritu, the
promising J.C. Chandor (who directed Margin Call and All is Lost) or
Jean-Marc Vallee?
There's likely always good films out there that are
falling below the radar as well of the independent variety. I used to hang out
in a movie group (circa 2008-2009) that would see films I never even knew
existed before I went to see them like Brideshead Revisited, Bottleshock,
Towelhead, Gonzo, The Brothers Bloom, and "In the Loop" (this one
ended up getting a lot of awards attention later on). Similar examples of recent
films in that below the radar category might be "Bernie" "Safety
Not Guaranteed" "Robot and Frank" or "No." It's hard
to say whether these films were better or worse than (surely a few are) but
they generally aren't part of the national conversation on movies and are
generally not accessible. In some cases, it's a little less fun to view films
that aren't in the national conversation. I couldn't really check my opinion on
"Brideshead Revisited" against friends or people on IMDB because so
few people had seen or heard of that film. If the film is good, one hopes for
several reasons that it's part of the national conversation. There's also a
question of whether those below-the-radar films are under threat.
But the bottom
line is what would have to happen to affect change? The article suggests that
this is simply the result of executives who are no longer interested in art. If
I'm not mistaken, the Weinstein Brothers at Miramax were champions of ambition
and funded many Oscar-calliber films and passion projects. Would it simply take
a couple more executives like the Weinsteins to turn things around?
Adam – I’d like to think that I have not “changed my tune.” There are very troubling signs about the
future of movies but that doesn’t mean I’m ready to give up or that we can
start giving cinema its last rites.
That said, the numbers are not good. Box office for 2014 dropped five percent from
2013 and the total number of tickets sold is the lowest since 1993 (http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-box-office-winners-losers-of-2014/). The major theater chains’
panicky retreat with The Interview opened the door wider for
simultaneous theater and VOD releases, which the those same theater chains have
fought bitterly.
If Hollywood studios are scared, and they probably should
be, then they are even more likely to play conservative and rely heavily on
franchise films. For every one person
like yourself, who may not see a Part II because he hasn’t seen Part I, the
studios are betting on many more people who have seen Part I feeling compelled
to see Parts II, III and IV.
As I noted, I have no problem with franchise films,
provided they are made intelligently.
Luckily many of them have been lately.
But one problem with having so many of them is that you lose the element
of surprise. Even if they are made well,
to some degree you know what you are going to get. Of course this predictability is what studios
are banking on.
For me though, one of cinema’s joys is discovery. A few years ago I got off work early and had
time to kill. I walked to the Landmark E
Street Theater and picked a film called Timecrimes purely on the basis
of it starting soon and having not seen it before. I walked into the theater not knowing anything
about Timecrimes other than that it was a Spanish
thriller. I walked out exhilarated. Timecrimes brilliantly deconstructed
the idea of time travel by playing the same story through different
angles. It trusted the audience to
follow the complex story and filling in the details as they are slowly
revealed. Films such as Timecrimes,
or Boyhood more recently, give us that unique opportunity to see
something on film that we have not seen before.
With the franchise films, it’s not surprise or discovery
but anticipation. The studios want your
overwhelming feeling upon leaving the theater to be not so much “What a great
film!” but rather ‘I can’t wait until the next one!” For us that feeling can be a little
deflating. First, the endless hype
before a film can build up expectation so much that disappointment is almost
inevitable. Second, it can be more
challenging to get into a film if you know it’s only getting you from point B
to point C in a five part storyline.
You made a good point about the Oscar race. For as much as we may criticize the Oscars,
the prestige of winning them may be the one remaining factor that gets more
adult-oriented non-franchise films made.
I don’t believe that the filmmakers themselves set out to win an
Oscar. But the studios decision to make
or even distribute these kinds of films could largely be awards driven.
It may take more people like the Weinsteins to stem the tide
we are in. Thankfully the Weinsteins are
still active and are distributing films such as The Imitation Game. Some of the others helping are not
distributors, but people with wealth and clout who have their own production
companies. Oprah Winfrey’s Harpo Pictures helped finance
Precious, The Butler, and most recently Selma. Brad Pitt’s Plan B also supported Selma
and last year supported 12 Years a Slave. Megan Ellison’s Annapurna Pictures financed
Zero Dark Thirty, The Master, Her, American Hustle and
Foxcatcher.
It's people like Winfrey, Pitt and Ellison who still give
me hope. It’s also the fact that in the
past year, I saw original and daring films from Wes Anderson, Richard
Linklater, Alejandro González Iñárritu, David Fincher, Steve James, and Michael
Winterbottom. This week I am going to
see films by Clint Eastwood, Paul Thomas Anderson and Mike Leigh. Angelina Jolie has proven that she’s a
talented director. So have emerging new
voices Ava DuVernay, Damien Chazelle and Morten Tyldum.
Closer to home, the Arclight just opened in Bethesda as
has Ipic. Between those, the Landmark
theaters, the Angelika, and the AFI Silver, we in the DC area have plenty of
choices that offer more than the traditional multiplex. We have access to film festivals, independent
cinema and documentaries here. How much
can I really complain?
We and others with similar access must take advantage of
our opportunities. We must also do our
part to shape the conversation. The
franchise films will always have a disproportionately large share of the
spotlight. But those of us that love all
kinds of films should use the Internet, social media, and even old-fashioned
conversation to let people know about the smaller films, the ones that take chances. I’m trying to do that in my own small way
with the Cinema Lounge and my Adam’s Rib column. You’ve been doing that in your many venues
and through your blogs such as this one.
It’s been a privilege to be a part of your world. Thank you, and I hope we can do it again.
Friday, March 21, 2008
The best of 2007 from a guest blogger
Guest blogger Brian, a University of Minnesota freshman and cinematic studies major, had these rankings on the best of 07. I am going to make comments in addition to Brian's picks, but that's only for the chance for some point-counterpoint and to encourage further discussion. Credit for the post is all Brian, though:
Tops in the last Oscar Year:
Actor:
Tommy Lee Jones (in No Country For Old Men): Jones’ performance in the Best Picture Winner Film, has been totally overlooked, and should have at least gotten more attention with in the Cinematic Community. Jones’ performance is simple, yet chillingly haunting, providing the foundation for the film’s now famous ending.
Daniel Day-Lewis (in There Will Be Blood): Lewis definitely deserved the Best Actor award: I can’t think of another actor that deserved the award as much as he did. His performance in There Will Be Blood may very well have been the most amazing performance I have seen in years. From beginning to end, Lewis’ acting filled the screen and sent shivers down my spine. His performance during the famous baptism scene will forever be remembered as masterfully powerful.
Johnny Depp (in Sweeny Todd): Depp provided an extremely intense performance of the infamous musical star. And who knew that Depp could sing?? His singing provided an even deeper depth to his already intense performance.
Glen Hansard (in Once): From this “little film that could”, which even won Best Original Song at the Oscars, came his amazing performance. Hansard’s simple, yet powerful performance is extremely natural and life-like, and, like Depp in Sweeny Todd, provides intensely beautiful singing to his character. From his trademark “t’anks” to his trademark costume of jacket, scarf, and short beard, Glen Hansard will always be remembered as “The Guy” (The name as it is stated in the credits). Unfortunately, Glen Hansard has publicly stated that he is going to concentrate on his music career rather than his acting career.
Jonah Hill (in Superbad): Despite the fact that Superbad is anything but a cinematic masterpiece, Jonah Hill’s performance was what made the film so enjoyable to watch. Hill’s acting, albeit mostly improvised, is hilarious. It was the improvisational style to his acting that really brought out the humor in the script of the film. For a film like Superbad, you need someone who can really act out a funny script and ad-lib at the same time; and Jonah Hill was that man.
My opinion: Tommy Lee Jones is my #2 for best supporting actor behind Tom Wilkinson, so aside from a different category placement, I am pretty much in agreement on that. "Chilling" is indeed a good word to describe Jones' stoic style and blank stares into space as he seemed so consumed by the threat of Anton Chirgurh. I agree as well on Day-Lewis: Samuel L. Jackson once said that Oscars (for acting at least) are won not by movies but by moments, and the baptism scene is the clincher for Day-Lewis.
I'm pretty much on the other side of the fence on Hill, mainly because I didn't find Superbad particularly enjoyable because he's right, it takes a great actor to rescue a mediocre comedic script and bring those jokes to life (think Tom Hanks with Ladykillers or Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels with Dumb and Dumber), and at the end of the day, it still felt like a mediocre script to me. I basically have Superbad as hovering around 2 1/2 stars which in other words, is a mixed bag. I thought the dialogue wasn't particularly anything of note despite setting the record for most 4-letter words per minute (according to the claims of writer Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg) and it's saving grace was the turn of events in the storyline and its larger themes.
Actress:
Ellen Page (in Juno): Ellen Page is Juno. She was perfectly cast as the part. Page’s performance was way beyond her years, and was definitely worthy of the Oscar nod, and most likely should have won the award, despite the fact that she is so young and that this was her first widely successful film. Her performance was so lifelike that I thought I was watching one of my friends in real life. Page’s acting style is such that she seems to take the script and make it her own and in doing so, she lights up the screen. I was smiling throughout the whole movie (with the exception of the crying scene of course) because it was so enjoyable to see her act.
Evan Rachel Wood (in Across the Universe): Similar to Johnny Depp and Glen Hansard, I am huge fan of the singing-performance. I believe that if you can sing on screen or stage, then you can most likely act as well. This is certainly true of Evan Rachel Wood in Across the Universe. Wood’s singing provides a beautiful backing for her beautiful performance. Her acting reminds me of a stage performance, which, in some cases can be construed as more authentic acting, since stage acting is non-stop on stage (whereas films stop for each take).
My take: I have another Oscar nominee, Cate Blanchett from Elizabeth and the Golden Age as my #1, followed by Evan Rachel Wood (so we're on the same page there), Naiomi Watts from Eastern Promises, and then Page, so we differ a little there. I agree that Paige was perfectly cast in the part, but than in that case, doesn't that significantly lower the degree of difficulty? Although Oscars aren't supposed to be a body of work, it will be interesting to see Paige on screen with words not written by Diablo Cody coming out of her mouth. I do agree, Wood stole the show and gave a performance I will remember for years to come.
Supporting Actor:
Javier Bardem (in No Country For Old Men): Obviously, Bardem’s performance will be forever remember as the new perfect villain. His performance was hauntingly perfect in every sense of the word, even down to his now trademark coin flip.
Paul Dano (in There Will Be Blood): Dano’s performance in There Will Be Blood was unforgettable. The acting of this charismatic clergyman was hauntingly masterful for being so young and in relatively few films.
My comments: Whether Bardem was the perfect villain is a whole other discussion but I agree that Bardem nailed the part and had a certain rhythm and consistency in style to his character that made it come to life. It was such a competitive year for this category that I had to put Tom Wilkinson, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Tommy Lee Jones and Forrest Whitaker from the Great Debaters before Bardem, and I was almost considering Ben Foster who I feel was able to paint a portrait of an equally intriguing villain with few words. From the 85 minutes of There Will Be Blood that I saw, Paul Dano showed quite a bit of versatility in this role as opposed to his role in Little Miss Sunshine last year. It's almost as if he grew up.
Supporting Actress:
Helena Bonham Carter (in Sweeny Todd): Carter’s performance in Sweeny Todd was perfect. It was so enjoyable to watch. There is just something about her acting that makes movie watching so much fun. It must be the juxtaposition of her facial expressions and her hilarious comments in that British accent.
My comments: Unfortunately, being only a part-time film critic I don't see every movie to come out, and Sweeny Todd wasn't something I had the fortune of catching.
Director:
Paul Thomas Anderson (There Will Be Blood): There Will Be Blood was without a doubt a cinematic masterpiece and would not have been so amazing with a different director or cinematographer for that matter. Any viewer can see the amount of work that Anderson put into making the film.
Joel and Ethan Coen (No Country For Old Men): No Country is this Oscar year’s other cinematic masterpiece. From the start to its anti-conventional ending, the film screams amazing directing, which is nothing but understandable from two of our generation’s best filmmakers.
My comments: Interesting fact about Brian: He went to the same high schol as the Coen Brothers in Minnesota. I agree from what I saw of There Will Be Blood and what I know of the storyline that Anderson deserved a best director title over Coen. It was a more ambitious project that acheived its potential
Picture:
Once: The music alone from this film is amazing, but this anti-conventional love story is a beautiful reconnection to the French New Wave style of filmmaking.
There Will Be Blood: A hauntingly beautiful, epic, difficult cinematic work of art.
No Country For Old Men: A genius film with exciting action and a brilliant ending, but a surprising film coming from two amazing (usually comedic) directors.
Sweeny Todd: A sinister masterpiece from the dark mind of Tim Burton, which encompasses all that is great about the Musical/Film hybrid world.
Across The Universe: The best and worst film ever made. A genius idea to create a new narrative with Beatles’ music, however, it seemed too forced at times. On the other hand, the other large majority of the film has some of the most beautifully photographed scenes I have ever seen, where the visuals matched the music perfectly and sent shivers down my spine.
My comments: Whole-heartedly agree with the Across the Universe comment. The idea was genius while the execution was sloppy
Tops in the last Oscar Year:
Actor:
Tommy Lee Jones (in No Country For Old Men): Jones’ performance in the Best Picture Winner Film, has been totally overlooked, and should have at least gotten more attention with in the Cinematic Community. Jones’ performance is simple, yet chillingly haunting, providing the foundation for the film’s now famous ending.
Daniel Day-Lewis (in There Will Be Blood): Lewis definitely deserved the Best Actor award: I can’t think of another actor that deserved the award as much as he did. His performance in There Will Be Blood may very well have been the most amazing performance I have seen in years. From beginning to end, Lewis’ acting filled the screen and sent shivers down my spine. His performance during the famous baptism scene will forever be remembered as masterfully powerful.
Johnny Depp (in Sweeny Todd): Depp provided an extremely intense performance of the infamous musical star. And who knew that Depp could sing?? His singing provided an even deeper depth to his already intense performance.
Glen Hansard (in Once): From this “little film that could”, which even won Best Original Song at the Oscars, came his amazing performance. Hansard’s simple, yet powerful performance is extremely natural and life-like, and, like Depp in Sweeny Todd, provides intensely beautiful singing to his character. From his trademark “t’anks” to his trademark costume of jacket, scarf, and short beard, Glen Hansard will always be remembered as “The Guy” (The name as it is stated in the credits). Unfortunately, Glen Hansard has publicly stated that he is going to concentrate on his music career rather than his acting career.
Jonah Hill (in Superbad): Despite the fact that Superbad is anything but a cinematic masterpiece, Jonah Hill’s performance was what made the film so enjoyable to watch. Hill’s acting, albeit mostly improvised, is hilarious. It was the improvisational style to his acting that really brought out the humor in the script of the film. For a film like Superbad, you need someone who can really act out a funny script and ad-lib at the same time; and Jonah Hill was that man.
My opinion: Tommy Lee Jones is my #2 for best supporting actor behind Tom Wilkinson, so aside from a different category placement, I am pretty much in agreement on that. "Chilling" is indeed a good word to describe Jones' stoic style and blank stares into space as he seemed so consumed by the threat of Anton Chirgurh. I agree as well on Day-Lewis: Samuel L. Jackson once said that Oscars (for acting at least) are won not by movies but by moments, and the baptism scene is the clincher for Day-Lewis.
I'm pretty much on the other side of the fence on Hill, mainly because I didn't find Superbad particularly enjoyable because he's right, it takes a great actor to rescue a mediocre comedic script and bring those jokes to life (think Tom Hanks with Ladykillers or Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels with Dumb and Dumber), and at the end of the day, it still felt like a mediocre script to me. I basically have Superbad as hovering around 2 1/2 stars which in other words, is a mixed bag. I thought the dialogue wasn't particularly anything of note despite setting the record for most 4-letter words per minute (according to the claims of writer Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg) and it's saving grace was the turn of events in the storyline and its larger themes.
Actress:
Ellen Page (in Juno): Ellen Page is Juno. She was perfectly cast as the part. Page’s performance was way beyond her years, and was definitely worthy of the Oscar nod, and most likely should have won the award, despite the fact that she is so young and that this was her first widely successful film. Her performance was so lifelike that I thought I was watching one of my friends in real life. Page’s acting style is such that she seems to take the script and make it her own and in doing so, she lights up the screen. I was smiling throughout the whole movie (with the exception of the crying scene of course) because it was so enjoyable to see her act.
Evan Rachel Wood (in Across the Universe): Similar to Johnny Depp and Glen Hansard, I am huge fan of the singing-performance. I believe that if you can sing on screen or stage, then you can most likely act as well. This is certainly true of Evan Rachel Wood in Across the Universe. Wood’s singing provides a beautiful backing for her beautiful performance. Her acting reminds me of a stage performance, which, in some cases can be construed as more authentic acting, since stage acting is non-stop on stage (whereas films stop for each take).
My take: I have another Oscar nominee, Cate Blanchett from Elizabeth and the Golden Age as my #1, followed by Evan Rachel Wood (so we're on the same page there), Naiomi Watts from Eastern Promises, and then Page, so we differ a little there. I agree that Paige was perfectly cast in the part, but than in that case, doesn't that significantly lower the degree of difficulty? Although Oscars aren't supposed to be a body of work, it will be interesting to see Paige on screen with words not written by Diablo Cody coming out of her mouth. I do agree, Wood stole the show and gave a performance I will remember for years to come.
Supporting Actor:
Javier Bardem (in No Country For Old Men): Obviously, Bardem’s performance will be forever remember as the new perfect villain. His performance was hauntingly perfect in every sense of the word, even down to his now trademark coin flip.
Paul Dano (in There Will Be Blood): Dano’s performance in There Will Be Blood was unforgettable. The acting of this charismatic clergyman was hauntingly masterful for being so young and in relatively few films.
My comments: Whether Bardem was the perfect villain is a whole other discussion but I agree that Bardem nailed the part and had a certain rhythm and consistency in style to his character that made it come to life. It was such a competitive year for this category that I had to put Tom Wilkinson, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Tommy Lee Jones and Forrest Whitaker from the Great Debaters before Bardem, and I was almost considering Ben Foster who I feel was able to paint a portrait of an equally intriguing villain with few words. From the 85 minutes of There Will Be Blood that I saw, Paul Dano showed quite a bit of versatility in this role as opposed to his role in Little Miss Sunshine last year. It's almost as if he grew up.
Supporting Actress:
Helena Bonham Carter (in Sweeny Todd): Carter’s performance in Sweeny Todd was perfect. It was so enjoyable to watch. There is just something about her acting that makes movie watching so much fun. It must be the juxtaposition of her facial expressions and her hilarious comments in that British accent.
My comments: Unfortunately, being only a part-time film critic I don't see every movie to come out, and Sweeny Todd wasn't something I had the fortune of catching.
Director:
Paul Thomas Anderson (There Will Be Blood): There Will Be Blood was without a doubt a cinematic masterpiece and would not have been so amazing with a different director or cinematographer for that matter. Any viewer can see the amount of work that Anderson put into making the film.
Joel and Ethan Coen (No Country For Old Men): No Country is this Oscar year’s other cinematic masterpiece. From the start to its anti-conventional ending, the film screams amazing directing, which is nothing but understandable from two of our generation’s best filmmakers.
My comments: Interesting fact about Brian: He went to the same high schol as the Coen Brothers in Minnesota. I agree from what I saw of There Will Be Blood and what I know of the storyline that Anderson deserved a best director title over Coen. It was a more ambitious project that acheived its potential
Picture:
Once: The music alone from this film is amazing, but this anti-conventional love story is a beautiful reconnection to the French New Wave style of filmmaking.
There Will Be Blood: A hauntingly beautiful, epic, difficult cinematic work of art.
No Country For Old Men: A genius film with exciting action and a brilliant ending, but a surprising film coming from two amazing (usually comedic) directors.
Sweeny Todd: A sinister masterpiece from the dark mind of Tim Burton, which encompasses all that is great about the Musical/Film hybrid world.
Across The Universe: The best and worst film ever made. A genius idea to create a new narrative with Beatles’ music, however, it seemed too forced at times. On the other hand, the other large majority of the film has some of the most beautifully photographed scenes I have ever seen, where the visuals matched the music perfectly and sent shivers down my spine.
My comments: Whole-heartedly agree with the Across the Universe comment. The idea was genius while the execution was sloppy
Wednesday, September 19, 2007
Ed Wood Review
I’m starting to learn that I usually find one work that I love from every director. I’ve never been a particularly big fan of Lubitsch and have no idea why a far superior director, Billy Wilder, felt that Lubitsch was a good. But I absolutely love Ninotchka. I don’t think the Coen Brothers are the great ushers of comedy in the post-modern era that others make them out to be, but I feel the same way about Oh Brother Where Art Thou. For Stanley Kubrick, that film would be Paths to Glory and for David Lynch, Mullholland Drive.
I can understand Tim Burton’s cult following but it’s just personally never been my cup of tea. I like his two installments of Batman and have appreciated them more in retrospect but his offbeat visions in Edward Scissorhands, Beetle Juice, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory were too bizarre for me, and although I can appreciate a good animated films as much as the next casual film goer, I’m personally not a film connoisseur of film animation which explains why I didn’t go gaga over the animation innovations of The Corpse Bride and The Nightmare Before Christmas.
Ed Wood, however, is a brilliant idea for a biopic and it’s a celebration of film making and a justification for it, even if the results are less than stellar. The subject of the film is a moderately eccentric man (played by Johnny Depp) who has attracted a cult following after his death by virtue of being considered the world’s worst director. I know that’s a hard title to place when you have guys like Michael Bay and Raja Gosnell still floating around along with countless film school graduates who have never even made it out of small-town film festivals. What separated Wood from the directors who spew out commercialized crap, however, was that Wood aspired to be Orson Welles and (in the film’s portrayal of him, at least) he was so optimistic and upbeat about it that he thought he was well on his way to becoming him. That’s what the film’s about. It’s that life isn’t about success or failure but rather by creativity and how much you love what you do. Wood is portrayed as a winner because he dared to direct films and there’s no better way to celebrate filmmaking than finding merit in the worst filmmaker.
I think it was also interesting that with the exception of his first girlfriend, Wood had a creative team (i.e. Bill Murray’s character, the wrestler) that followed him through all of his creative pursuits and acted as a quasi-support system. If this story weren’t based on fact, I would be left to wonder why these people would keep working with him despite the fact that he failed so often and I think that’s another way that the film highlights Wood’s optimism. Perhaps, this is a parallel to Orson Welles’ consistent use of the same people and his famous repertory company called “The Mercury Players. Of course, Wood’s relationship is closest to Boris Karloff, his idol as a kid, who he later befriended and had the privilege of directing him in film after film. The relationship between the two and the chemistry between Depp and Martin Landau is at the heart of the film. Landau, by the way, is stellar and very deserving of his award.
As for the question of what separated Wood from the many people who never made it far past film school, there was surprisingly little. Wood’s films were mostly independently produced and he was largely an unknown commodity when he died. He gained fame when his film “Plan Nine from Outer Space” won a book-sponsored contest in 1981 of the worst films of all time. It’s a film that was shown in the first week of my first film class and it’s high number of inconsistencies and bloopers are very easy to spot. The movie answered questions for anyone whose watched this film about why it was made so haphazardly: Apparently, it was simply made as a way for Wood to appease his landlord and Burton’s film has this great sense of dramatic irony as Jonny Depp’s character says, “I know this is the film I’ll be remembered for,” but not in the way he wanted.
I can understand Tim Burton’s cult following but it’s just personally never been my cup of tea. I like his two installments of Batman and have appreciated them more in retrospect but his offbeat visions in Edward Scissorhands, Beetle Juice, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory were too bizarre for me, and although I can appreciate a good animated films as much as the next casual film goer, I’m personally not a film connoisseur of film animation which explains why I didn’t go gaga over the animation innovations of The Corpse Bride and The Nightmare Before Christmas.
Ed Wood, however, is a brilliant idea for a biopic and it’s a celebration of film making and a justification for it, even if the results are less than stellar. The subject of the film is a moderately eccentric man (played by Johnny Depp) who has attracted a cult following after his death by virtue of being considered the world’s worst director. I know that’s a hard title to place when you have guys like Michael Bay and Raja Gosnell still floating around along with countless film school graduates who have never even made it out of small-town film festivals. What separated Wood from the directors who spew out commercialized crap, however, was that Wood aspired to be Orson Welles and (in the film’s portrayal of him, at least) he was so optimistic and upbeat about it that he thought he was well on his way to becoming him. That’s what the film’s about. It’s that life isn’t about success or failure but rather by creativity and how much you love what you do. Wood is portrayed as a winner because he dared to direct films and there’s no better way to celebrate filmmaking than finding merit in the worst filmmaker.
I think it was also interesting that with the exception of his first girlfriend, Wood had a creative team (i.e. Bill Murray’s character, the wrestler) that followed him through all of his creative pursuits and acted as a quasi-support system. If this story weren’t based on fact, I would be left to wonder why these people would keep working with him despite the fact that he failed so often and I think that’s another way that the film highlights Wood’s optimism. Perhaps, this is a parallel to Orson Welles’ consistent use of the same people and his famous repertory company called “The Mercury Players. Of course, Wood’s relationship is closest to Boris Karloff, his idol as a kid, who he later befriended and had the privilege of directing him in film after film. The relationship between the two and the chemistry between Depp and Martin Landau is at the heart of the film. Landau, by the way, is stellar and very deserving of his award.
As for the question of what separated Wood from the many people who never made it far past film school, there was surprisingly little. Wood’s films were mostly independently produced and he was largely an unknown commodity when he died. He gained fame when his film “Plan Nine from Outer Space” won a book-sponsored contest in 1981 of the worst films of all time. It’s a film that was shown in the first week of my first film class and it’s high number of inconsistencies and bloopers are very easy to spot. The movie answered questions for anyone whose watched this film about why it was made so haphazardly: Apparently, it was simply made as a way for Wood to appease his landlord and Burton’s film has this great sense of dramatic irony as Jonny Depp’s character says, “I know this is the film I’ll be remembered for,” but not in the way he wanted.
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Sunday, October 08, 2006
In defense of Batman Forever
Thinking of extending that trilogy past its prime? I think it's important to realize how an especially bad turn in a film series can hurt the legacy of the entire series to the point where it might damage the director's reputation and the retroactive reputation of films that come before it.
As a 12-year old kid, I loved Batman Forever and I recently went to look up reviews of it. Before looking them up, however, I had a preminition that because of the disaster of Batman and Robin, Batman Forever would be seen as much worse than it actually was.
While Batman and Robin extends those "campy characteristics" to an extreme, without extending any substance to them, I think it's important to note that Batman Forever had a stopping point to its corniness before it ever interfered with the story at hand.
Furthermore, It's important for everyone to realize that since Batman's creation in what I believe was the 1920s, there have been two parallel versions of Batman going on. One is the "dark knight" Batman, the mysterious force of good who no one knows about, and then there's the "camp" batman, who's more family-friendly, and more colorful, put it that way, his costume has blues and purples in it, rather than just plain black. The key difference, when you think about it, is Robin, because with Robin in the picture, Batman is nowhere near as mysterious and extraordinary because there is at least one other person doing the same things he is and there is at least one other person who is fighting the same battles he is, and also because Batman has to watch out for someone else, you know he's not selfless and evil. The people who like the "dark knight" Batman, are probably people whose prime hobby is comic book collecting over film watching, because that's where the dark knight first appeared.
Me, on the other hand am a film watcher who was born in 1983, so when Batman Returns came out I was 9, and while the depth of Burton's dark urban vision was so extraordinary even i could be amazed by it, I had a hard time with all the violence, seeing so many of Penguin's henchmen killed (a couple at the hands of Penguin, himself) or the scene where catwoman robs a store and kills a guy with her fingernails, etc. I'm not saying I needed a happy ending, but all the characters, even Batman, were just very depressing.
When Batman Forever came out, I was 12, and unlike its predecessor I really got on board the ride, because the movie had really great heroes and villains, which i could be engaged rooting for or against. In Batman Forever, Batman and the villains are all equally perverse and dark, I really didn't care much who won at the end, and maybe people who are harsh on Schumaker's films fail to take into account what these Batman movies are like for a kid's perspective.Visually, the movie was a marvel to watch. Tommy Lee Jones' make-up job is so great, i'd like to see someone tell me they weren't blown away, the first time we see the left side of his face in the film. Some people say that Tommy Lee Jones' portrayal of Two-Face wasn't true to the original character, who was a less hysterical individual, but I think a more composed and cool villain wouldn't have been as fun, simply put. The Riddler/Two Face partnership is the best mildly deranged villain/completely deranged villain chemistry in the series, I found (especially considering the other two partnerships never really had very much interaction with each other). Just look at the movie poster for this movie and the colors of the riddler's green, two-face's purple, robin's red, batman's dark blue/black. Like a John Williams score associates musical themes with each character, those colors with surreally bold hues draw out the characters throughout the movie. Also, Nicole Kidman blew me away too. This was long before she was in a stage where every movie role she took was basically crying out, "give me an Oscar." And as for Val Kilmer vs. Michael Keaton? Well, I think the best person to answer that question would be original Batman creator Barry Kane (did I get the name right?) who aid that Val Kilmer was the actor who played Batman closest to the vision he originally conceived it to be.
As a 12-year old kid, I loved Batman Forever and I recently went to look up reviews of it. Before looking them up, however, I had a preminition that because of the disaster of Batman and Robin, Batman Forever would be seen as much worse than it actually was.
While Batman and Robin extends those "campy characteristics" to an extreme, without extending any substance to them, I think it's important to note that Batman Forever had a stopping point to its corniness before it ever interfered with the story at hand.
Furthermore, It's important for everyone to realize that since Batman's creation in what I believe was the 1920s, there have been two parallel versions of Batman going on. One is the "dark knight" Batman, the mysterious force of good who no one knows about, and then there's the "camp" batman, who's more family-friendly, and more colorful, put it that way, his costume has blues and purples in it, rather than just plain black. The key difference, when you think about it, is Robin, because with Robin in the picture, Batman is nowhere near as mysterious and extraordinary because there is at least one other person doing the same things he is and there is at least one other person who is fighting the same battles he is, and also because Batman has to watch out for someone else, you know he's not selfless and evil. The people who like the "dark knight" Batman, are probably people whose prime hobby is comic book collecting over film watching, because that's where the dark knight first appeared.
Me, on the other hand am a film watcher who was born in 1983, so when Batman Returns came out I was 9, and while the depth of Burton's dark urban vision was so extraordinary even i could be amazed by it, I had a hard time with all the violence, seeing so many of Penguin's henchmen killed (a couple at the hands of Penguin, himself) or the scene where catwoman robs a store and kills a guy with her fingernails, etc. I'm not saying I needed a happy ending, but all the characters, even Batman, were just very depressing.
When Batman Forever came out, I was 12, and unlike its predecessor I really got on board the ride, because the movie had really great heroes and villains, which i could be engaged rooting for or against. In Batman Forever, Batman and the villains are all equally perverse and dark, I really didn't care much who won at the end, and maybe people who are harsh on Schumaker's films fail to take into account what these Batman movies are like for a kid's perspective.Visually, the movie was a marvel to watch. Tommy Lee Jones' make-up job is so great, i'd like to see someone tell me they weren't blown away, the first time we see the left side of his face in the film. Some people say that Tommy Lee Jones' portrayal of Two-Face wasn't true to the original character, who was a less hysterical individual, but I think a more composed and cool villain wouldn't have been as fun, simply put. The Riddler/Two Face partnership is the best mildly deranged villain/completely deranged villain chemistry in the series, I found (especially considering the other two partnerships never really had very much interaction with each other). Just look at the movie poster for this movie and the colors of the riddler's green, two-face's purple, robin's red, batman's dark blue/black. Like a John Williams score associates musical themes with each character, those colors with surreally bold hues draw out the characters throughout the movie. Also, Nicole Kidman blew me away too. This was long before she was in a stage where every movie role she took was basically crying out, "give me an Oscar." And as for Val Kilmer vs. Michael Keaton? Well, I think the best person to answer that question would be original Batman creator Barry Kane (did I get the name right?) who aid that Val Kilmer was the actor who played Batman closest to the vision he originally conceived it to be.
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